• Service times

    Services times are:

    Saturday night 7:30 pm for our Chinese/English service. (Pastor Daniel Choi.)

    Sunday 10 am for our English language service (Senior Pastor Jeff Whittaker).

    Sunday 11:30 am for our Chinese (Mandarin) language service. (Pastor Daniel Choi.)

  • Contact details…

    Physical and postal address:
    4 Inverary Avenue,
    Auckland 1023,


    (0064 9) 6306010

    Rev. Jeff Whittaker
    Pastor Daniel Choi

  • Church Officers…

    Church Treasurers: Christina King and Li Ying

    Church Secretary: Margaret Whittaker

    Church Deacons: Anne Bartley, Ian de Stigter, Kristy Choi, Willa Hui, Donglan Zhang and Alfred Zhou.

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Noah, the flood, and violence…

The more prominence a topic is given in Scripture, then the implication is that the more important it is. On this basis, the Noahic flood and other material associated with Noah dominate the opening part of Genesis. From Genesis 5: 28 (where Noah is introduced), through Genesis chapter 10 (which lists Noah’s descendants), the emphasis yet is on the catastrophic flood out of which Noah, his family, and a sample of all flesh are saved.

Genesis chapter 6 is headed up The Wickedness of Humankind in my Bible (NRSV). And certainly humanity is condemned in verses 5 and 6 for possessing evil hearts. But, in verse 7, God admits to regret at creating not just humankind, but also animals, creeping things, and birds. From verses 11, it is clear that all flesh – that is human beings, birds, animals wild and domestic, and all creeping things – that draws breath is implicated in God’s critique of violence. Verse 12 and 13 describe all flesh as being corrupted, with the corruption being evidenced by violence. And so God decrees that all flesh must perish, with the flood being the chosen instrument of eradication. However, as Genesis 8: 21 acknowledges, the solution didn’t work.

This lumping together of all flesh as corrupt raises some fascinating questions, first about human culpability, but then about animal culpability. The recently reported anthropological finding of a pre-historic mass grave in which the bones show clear signs of human inflicted violence raises the question: Has humanity ever been anything other than violent, the Garden of Eden story notwithstanding? (I believe this finding contradicts the assertion of people like Karen Armstrong in ‘Fields of Blood: Religion and the History of Violence’ who contend that human violence did not begin until the advent of settled agriculture.) Have carnivorous or omnivorous animals ever been anything other than predatory? Palaeontology doesn’t indicate that these animals have been anything other than predatory. As Science discovers that animals also exhibit sentient awareness of things traditionally only attributed to human beings, albeit in more rudimentary form, are animals then to be held to human ethical standards? Can animal life be different if humanity changes for the better as hinted at in Romans 8? Has Isaiah picked up on the implications of this in his vision of the peaceable kingdom (Isaiah chapter 11), imagining a human and an animal world without predation? Can a lion truly be leonine while vegetarian?

John August Swanson's rendering of Isaiah's vision of the peaceable kingdom.

John August Swanson’s rendering of Isaiah’s vision of the peaceable kingdom.

As various utopian visions in the Bible make clear, humanity is certainly aware that it could live differently, co-operating peaceably not just with other human beings but also with the rest of the created world. We describe this as the kingdom of God coming in its fullness. Advances in many fields – we owe a huge debt to science – means that we should be optimistic. But all of the foregoing discussion means that the peaceable kingdom, the utopian vision of Isaiah, cannot be brought about by attempting to eradicate violence with an imposed death sentence. In fact, maybe we are being shown that the peaceable kingdom can only be brought into being by sacrifice that puts human violence into the spotlight. That, of course, brings us to the cross of Christ…